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"I was like, Am I gay? Am I straight? And I realized...I'm just slutty.
Where's my parade?" -Margaret Cho
I made a personal decision to paint my neighbors house black.
I wish my neighbor would stop complaining about it.
It was a quick & easy job & I dont regret it. Its a personal choice, & he needs to respect it.-Yoshua, MDC
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
~ Voltaire, Author and Philosopher, born Francois Marie Arouet
CIRCUMCISION:
Doctors get the tips,
Our sons get the shaft.
I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. Gandhi
We don't receive wisdom; We must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us. -Marcel Proust
"So circumcision started as a sacrifice- because God wanted the Jews' dickheads. Then it kept going because Christians hated the fun of masturbation. We saw through that; suddenly circumcision prevented disease. Now we find that's bullshit too. So the only excuse we have now is conformity. Not a very compelling argument. What's next? So your cockhead is a little easier to pierce? So you don't whistle in the wind? To stop the terrorists?
Let's end this now. The first rule of medicine is to do no harm. Cutting off the tip of the penis is at very least a harm. Quite possibly, fucking bad- and bad for fucking! So to all you penis butchers out there: put down the knife, step away from the baby, and Do No Harm."
Penn Jillette
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been so credulous.
~ Carl Sagan ~
we don't hurt babies in our house; god gave them to us to protect. -suseyblue, MDC
[Circumcision is:]
2) Medically Unnecessary- it IS necessary... in order to assure avoidance of conditions of the foreskin. You could say that about any part of the body, though. If you poke out one eye, you reduce your chances of eye cancer by 50%. Of course, you won't see as much, but you'll have less trouble focusing and get fewer headaches from reading fine print. Depth perception is a myth anyway, though.. right?
Ask any cyclops. -Josh
The first real choice a human baby must make is whether to trust or mistrust other humans. This basic trust-versus-mistrust stage is the first building block upon which all later love relationships are formed." ~ Dr. Ken Magid
~7 billion gallons of oil each year are required to feed our disposable-diaper habit today, almost 4x as much oil as is estimated to be in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.-Peggy O'Mara
"George's answer to any problem at the ranch is to cut it down with a chainsaw. Which is why I think he and Cheney and Rumsfeld get along so well. -Laura Bush
"Forgiveness is giving up all hope of having had a different past."
"Children who go swimming are 7,193 times more likely to bump up against a fish than non-swimming children." -American Journal of Oceanic Recreation
It takes less effort to condemn than to think. --Emma Goldman
"Scientific medicine has taken credit it does not deserve for some advances in health. Most people believe that victory over the infectious diseases of the last century came with the invention of immunisations. In fact, cholera, typhoid, tetanus, diphtheria and whooping cough, etc, were in decline before vaccines for them became available - the result of better methods of sanitation, sewage disposal, and distribution of food and water." from 'Health and Healing' Dr Andrew Weil:
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."
The germ is nothing; the terrain is everything. L. Pasteur
It is very difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it. -Upton Sinclair
We've begun to raise daughters more like sons... but few have the courage to raise our sons more like our daughters.
-Gloria Steinem
The person who does not believe it can be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb
Motherhood is the strangest thing, it can be like being one's own Trojan horse. ~ Rebecca West
"You become responsible forever for what you have tamed." The Little Prince, by Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Marian Tompson, a founding mother of LLLI:
"I think anyone with half a brain would realize that human milk is species specific. No one ever suggests that I feed my kittens with milk from the cocker spaniel next door."
"I've always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific."
-Lily Tomlin
"Breastfeeding is an act of female power, and I think of it as feminism in its purest form." - Christiane Northrup, MD
Having a baby is a beautiful miracle... Having a homebirth is choosing to treat it that way.
Emilie
"Ironically, guys like Jerry Falwell insist on interpreting the Good Book very literally. But put them in front of Teletubbies, and suddenly they become masters of subtext, cultural analysis, and innuendo. Go figure." Susan Jane Gilman, Kiss My Tiara
You are worried about seeing him spend his early years in doing nothing. What! Is it nothing to be happy? Nothing to skip, play, and run around all day long? Never in his life will he be so busy again.--Jean-Jacques Rousseau, "Emile"
It's a helluva start, being able to recognize what makes you happy. ~Lucille Ball
"The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look at it without doing anything” Albert Einstein
If I were an Iraqi, bound to a bed, clothes taken, denied food or water and lied to...the American Media would care. But I'm just a woman giving birth in America-S. Mitchell
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -Anne Lamott
Always tell the truth. That way, you don't have to remember what you said. - Mark Twain
I believe there is something out there watching over us. Unfortunately, it's the government. Woody Allen
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.
THOMAS PAINE
If we've learned anything in the past quarter century, it is that we cannot federalize virtue.
PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH 1991
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
GEORGE WASHINGTON Treaty of Tripoli 1796
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others.
THOMAS JEFFERSON
Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself, and where they are they should be changed.-Jimmy Carter
* never wrestle with pigs, they like it too much and you get dirty.*
When you throw dirt, you lose a lot of ground.
It's not just the making of babies,
but the making of mothers that midwives see as the miracle of birth.
-- Barbara Katz Rothman, Sociologist, Author of The Tentative Pregnancy, Genetic Maps and Human Imaginations
What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. ~Albert Pike
can you recall a time when you panicked and flipped out and it actually helped?
-- H.E. Runkel
"I'm very social indeed. Being with people is nice. But I don't think it's social to get a bunch of people together and then not let them talk, do you?" -- Clarisse of Fahrenheit 451 on school "socialization"
The founding fathers in their wisdom decided that children were an unnatural strain on their parents. So they provided jails called school, equipped with tortures called education.
--John Updike
"There is, on the whole, nothing on earth intended for innocent people so horrible as a school." --George Bernard Shaw
If your diapers aren't cloth, they're garbage.
It is easy to wake a sleeping person up, but it's very hard to wake a person up who is pretending to be asleep.
Peace is not something you wish for;
It's something you make, Something you do, Something you are, And something you give away.
-Robert Fulghum
All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer, 1788-1860
Beware of being too rational. In the country of the insane, the integrated man doesn't become king. He gets lynched. ~ (Aldous Huxley, Island)
How is it that little children are so intelligent and men so stupid? It must be education that does it.~ Alexandre Dumas
"What is most important and valuable about the home as a base for children's growth into the world is not that it is a better school than the schools, but that it isn't a school at all." --John Holt
It belongs to me/God told me/ If I painted it enough/I could have it- Georgia O'Keeffe.
I decided that the only thing I could do that was nobody else's business was to paint. I could do as I chose because no one would care. -G. O'Keeffe.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-John F. Kennedy
In war you kill the people who are the victims of the tyrant you claim to be fighting against.~Howard Zinn
~What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi~
"Our life is frittered away by detail...Simplify, simplify." Thoreau
"Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" Corrie Ten Boom.
Make yourself so happy that when others look at you they become happy too. - Yogi Tea bag tag
Amateurs built the ark ... Professionals built the Titanic!
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
"When you are in doubt, be still, and wait. When doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage. So long as mists envelop you, be still. Be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists -- as it surely will. Then act with courage" White Eagle
"If you want to make enemies, try to change something." Woodrow Wilson
Why not go out on a limb? That's where the fruit is. --Mark Twain
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -- Krishnamurti
"Be kind whenever possible...it is always possible."
-Dalai Lama
I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait 'til oil and coal run out before we tackle that." - Thomas Edison (1847–1931)
"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us." - Helen Keller
In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. -- MLK, Jr.
No government has the right to tell its citizens when or whom to love. The only queer people are those who don't love anybody. ~Rita Mae Brown, speech, 28 August 1982
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. ~Theodore Roosevelt
It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of homosexuality. It's like disapproving of rain.~ Francis Maude
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man" -- George Bernard Shaw
As Voltaire said, "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him."— Albert Einstein
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
"May God, if there is one, save my soul, if I have one." - Voltaire
Where's my parade?" -Margaret Cho
I made a personal decision to paint my neighbors house black.
I wish my neighbor would stop complaining about it.
It was a quick & easy job & I dont regret it. Its a personal choice, & he needs to respect it.-Yoshua, MDC
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
~ Voltaire, Author and Philosopher, born Francois Marie Arouet
CIRCUMCISION:
Doctors get the tips,
Our sons get the shaft.
I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. Gandhi
We don't receive wisdom; We must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us. -Marcel Proust
"So circumcision started as a sacrifice- because God wanted the Jews' dickheads. Then it kept going because Christians hated the fun of masturbation. We saw through that; suddenly circumcision prevented disease. Now we find that's bullshit too. So the only excuse we have now is conformity. Not a very compelling argument. What's next? So your cockhead is a little easier to pierce? So you don't whistle in the wind? To stop the terrorists?
Let's end this now. The first rule of medicine is to do no harm. Cutting off the tip of the penis is at very least a harm. Quite possibly, fucking bad- and bad for fucking! So to all you penis butchers out there: put down the knife, step away from the baby, and Do No Harm."
Penn Jillette
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been so credulous.
~ Carl Sagan ~
we don't hurt babies in our house; god gave them to us to protect. -suseyblue, MDC
[Circumcision is:]
2) Medically Unnecessary- it IS necessary... in order to assure avoidance of conditions of the foreskin. You could say that about any part of the body, though. If you poke out one eye, you reduce your chances of eye cancer by 50%. Of course, you won't see as much, but you'll have less trouble focusing and get fewer headaches from reading fine print. Depth perception is a myth anyway, though.. right?
Ask any cyclops. -Josh
The first real choice a human baby must make is whether to trust or mistrust other humans. This basic trust-versus-mistrust stage is the first building block upon which all later love relationships are formed." ~ Dr. Ken Magid
~7 billion gallons of oil each year are required to feed our disposable-diaper habit today, almost 4x as much oil as is estimated to be in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.-Peggy O'Mara
"George's answer to any problem at the ranch is to cut it down with a chainsaw. Which is why I think he and Cheney and Rumsfeld get along so well. -Laura Bush
"Forgiveness is giving up all hope of having had a different past."
"Children who go swimming are 7,193 times more likely to bump up against a fish than non-swimming children." -American Journal of Oceanic Recreation
It takes less effort to condemn than to think. --Emma Goldman
"Scientific medicine has taken credit it does not deserve for some advances in health. Most people believe that victory over the infectious diseases of the last century came with the invention of immunisations. In fact, cholera, typhoid, tetanus, diphtheria and whooping cough, etc, were in decline before vaccines for them became available - the result of better methods of sanitation, sewage disposal, and distribution of food and water." from 'Health and Healing' Dr Andrew Weil:
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."
The germ is nothing; the terrain is everything. L. Pasteur
It is very difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it. -Upton Sinclair
We've begun to raise daughters more like sons... but few have the courage to raise our sons more like our daughters.
-Gloria Steinem
The person who does not believe it can be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb
Motherhood is the strangest thing, it can be like being one's own Trojan horse. ~ Rebecca West
"You become responsible forever for what you have tamed." The Little Prince, by Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Marian Tompson, a founding mother of LLLI:
"I think anyone with half a brain would realize that human milk is species specific. No one ever suggests that I feed my kittens with milk from the cocker spaniel next door."
"I've always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific."
-Lily Tomlin
"Breastfeeding is an act of female power, and I think of it as feminism in its purest form." - Christiane Northrup, MD
Having a baby is a beautiful miracle... Having a homebirth is choosing to treat it that way.
Emilie
"Ironically, guys like Jerry Falwell insist on interpreting the Good Book very literally. But put them in front of Teletubbies, and suddenly they become masters of subtext, cultural analysis, and innuendo. Go figure." Susan Jane Gilman, Kiss My Tiara
You are worried about seeing him spend his early years in doing nothing. What! Is it nothing to be happy? Nothing to skip, play, and run around all day long? Never in his life will he be so busy again.--Jean-Jacques Rousseau, "Emile"
It's a helluva start, being able to recognize what makes you happy. ~Lucille Ball
"The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look at it without doing anything” Albert Einstein
If I were an Iraqi, bound to a bed, clothes taken, denied food or water and lied to...the American Media would care. But I'm just a woman giving birth in America-S. Mitchell
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -Anne Lamott
Always tell the truth. That way, you don't have to remember what you said. - Mark Twain
I believe there is something out there watching over us. Unfortunately, it's the government. Woody Allen
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.
THOMAS PAINE
If we've learned anything in the past quarter century, it is that we cannot federalize virtue.
PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH 1991
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
GEORGE WASHINGTON Treaty of Tripoli 1796
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others.
THOMAS JEFFERSON
Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself, and where they are they should be changed.-Jimmy Carter
* never wrestle with pigs, they like it too much and you get dirty.*
When you throw dirt, you lose a lot of ground.
It's not just the making of babies,
but the making of mothers that midwives see as the miracle of birth.
-- Barbara Katz Rothman, Sociologist, Author of The Tentative Pregnancy, Genetic Maps and Human Imaginations
What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. ~Albert Pike
can you recall a time when you panicked and flipped out and it actually helped?
-- H.E. Runkel
"I'm very social indeed. Being with people is nice. But I don't think it's social to get a bunch of people together and then not let them talk, do you?" -- Clarisse of Fahrenheit 451 on school "socialization"
The founding fathers in their wisdom decided that children were an unnatural strain on their parents. So they provided jails called school, equipped with tortures called education.
--John Updike
"There is, on the whole, nothing on earth intended for innocent people so horrible as a school." --George Bernard Shaw
If your diapers aren't cloth, they're garbage.
It is easy to wake a sleeping person up, but it's very hard to wake a person up who is pretending to be asleep.
Peace is not something you wish for;
It's something you make, Something you do, Something you are, And something you give away.
-Robert Fulghum
All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer, 1788-1860
Beware of being too rational. In the country of the insane, the integrated man doesn't become king. He gets lynched. ~ (Aldous Huxley, Island)
How is it that little children are so intelligent and men so stupid? It must be education that does it.~ Alexandre Dumas
"What is most important and valuable about the home as a base for children's growth into the world is not that it is a better school than the schools, but that it isn't a school at all." --John Holt
It belongs to me/God told me/ If I painted it enough/I could have it- Georgia O'Keeffe.
I decided that the only thing I could do that was nobody else's business was to paint. I could do as I chose because no one would care. -G. O'Keeffe.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-John F. Kennedy
In war you kill the people who are the victims of the tyrant you claim to be fighting against.~Howard Zinn
~What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi~
"Our life is frittered away by detail...Simplify, simplify." Thoreau
"Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" Corrie Ten Boom.
Make yourself so happy that when others look at you they become happy too. - Yogi Tea bag tag
Amateurs built the ark ... Professionals built the Titanic!
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
"When you are in doubt, be still, and wait. When doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage. So long as mists envelop you, be still. Be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists -- as it surely will. Then act with courage" White Eagle
"If you want to make enemies, try to change something." Woodrow Wilson
Why not go out on a limb? That's where the fruit is. --Mark Twain
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -- Krishnamurti
"Be kind whenever possible...it is always possible."
-Dalai Lama
I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait 'til oil and coal run out before we tackle that." - Thomas Edison (1847–1931)
"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us." - Helen Keller
In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. -- MLK, Jr.
No government has the right to tell its citizens when or whom to love. The only queer people are those who don't love anybody. ~Rita Mae Brown, speech, 28 August 1982
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. ~Theodore Roosevelt
It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of homosexuality. It's like disapproving of rain.~ Francis Maude
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man" -- George Bernard Shaw
As Voltaire said, "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him."— Albert Einstein
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
"May God, if there is one, save my soul, if I have one." - Voltaire
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Sun, October 8, 2006 - 6:24 PMThank you. Those were excellent!
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Mon, October 16, 2006 - 11:59 AMThanks Mink!
I think I'll keep adding. Join in if you like- the themes seem to be parenting and education and peace and justice.
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 9:51 AM"It is important that you know you are planting seeds even if you don't see them bloom."
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Mon, November 6, 2006 - 12:31 PM"Christie didn't expect life to be fair. Alma's boy Hub went off to the big war and came back without a mark, but Clint lay now under the shadow of a cross in France. It was still hard to believe, maybe because it seemed so hard to prove. She was told she gave him for her country, but Christie wondered how many times in history mothers had been told that. Any mother would rather have her boy than any country in the world, for the earth would always be here and it did not seem to matter in the long run how the wars turned out. A person could sacrifice all she held dear for a land that didn't return the favor. James said her thought was unpatriotic."
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Thu, November 16, 2006 - 2:01 PM"I had decided I was going to take my thighs and butt with me proudly wherever I went. I decided, in fact, on the way to the beach that I would treat them as if they were beloved elderly aunties, the kind who did embarassing things at the beach, like roll their stockings into tubes around their ankles, but whom I was proud of because they were so great in every real and important way. So we walked along, the three of us... I imagined that I could feel the aunties beaming, as if they had been held captive in a dark closet too long, like Patty Hearst. Freed finally to stroll on a sandy Mexican beach: what a beautiful story." -Anne Lamott, from Traveing Mercies
"People diet because they want the goodies that go with being thin- the dates, the clothes, the instant respect. I just skip the dieting and go straight for the goodies." - Marilyn Wann
"We always think we're going to be better when we're thinner. It's not true. You've got to love yourself now." -Stacey Handler
"I don't have the perfect body. But I never break myself up into little pieces, my body is this, my face is that- I don't know why some women do that. I believe you have to be mind, body and spirit all at once. I am that way when I dance, and it doesn't end at the stage door." -Helene Alexopoulos
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, though it may be necessary, from time to time, to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." -Miss Piggy -
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Fri, November 17, 2006 - 8:35 AMNice ones. I like the anuntie quote. I'll have to remember that one.
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Thu, January 11, 2007 - 2:18 PM"A person who is nice to you but rude to the waiter is not a nice person." Dave Barry
"Being accountable is not an action; it is a state of mind." Inga Muscio
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." Albert Schweitzer
"When you judge another, you do not define that person. You define yourself as someone who needs to judge." Wayne Dyer
"One of the things about equality is not just that you be treated equally to a man,
but that you treat yourself equally to the way you treat a man." Marlo Thomas
"It is the duty of a citizen in a free country not to fit into society, but to make society." John Holt
"You are quite right to call the compulsory circumcision of infants a "horrible injustice." It is clearly a gross infringement of basic civil liberties and human dignity. The issue needs a full public review, so that parents no longer automatically follow an outdated religious code. The fashion for radical body-piercings that began on the West Coast and has swept the nation in the last decade demonstrates that human beings have a great appetite for painful rites of tribal identification. But free will is crucial. In ethical terms, the circumcision of helpless infants is a form of torture and therefore categorically wrong." Camille Paglia
"When people are mutilated, it is criminal, not cultural." Madeleine Albright
"If you hear a voice within you say 'you cannot paint,' then by all means paint, and that voice will be silenced." Van Gogh
"Marriage is a great institution, but I'm not ready for an institution." Mae West
"Don't believe in the myth of 'one day when everything will be different.' Do what you love to do, what you are waiting to do, and what you've been born to do, now." David Deida
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones." John Cage -
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Wed, January 31, 2007 - 11:19 AMIf you must read books, read many books, so that you will contact as many conflicting opinions as possible. In this manner you'll be required to form your own opinions after all. Peace Pilgrim
Once your mind is stretched by a new idea, it will never again return to its original size. -Oliver Wendall Holmes
Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it on something solid.- G.K. Chesterton
Parents wonder why the streams are bitter when they themselves have poisoned the fountain. John Locke
Nobody is bored when he is trying to make something that is beautiful or to discover something that is true. William Inge
We had a rule in Tibet that anyone proposing a new invention had to guarantee that it was beneficial, or at least harmless, for seven generations of humans before it could be adopted. Dalai Lama
On War:
Wars can be prevented just as surely as they can be provoked, and we who fail to prevent them must share in the guilt for the dead. General Omar Bradley
Dwight D. Eisenhower:
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who are hungry and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed." Speaking "as on who has witnessed the horror and lingering sadness of war- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization," he warned against the military-industrial complex. (quoted from Peace Pilgrim: Her Life and Works in Her Own Words)
We need not reach out to tear down that which is evil because nothing which is contrary to g-d's laws can endure. All not-good things in the world are transient, containing within themselves the seeds of their own destruction... Those who create something which is evil in order to overcome something else which is evil only double the evil. Peace Pilgrim
Remember that one who does an unworthy deed is in reality psychologically sick, and should be regarded with as much compassion as one who is physically sick. Remember that no one can hurt you except yourself. If someone does a mean thing to you, that person is hurt. You are not really hurt unless you become embittered, or unless you become angry and perhaps do a mean thing in return. Peace Pilgrim
All wars are sacred- to those who have to fight them. If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who would be foolish enough to fight? But, no matter what rallying cries the orators give to the idiots who fight, no matter what noble purposes they assign to wars, there is never but one reason for a war. And that is money. All wars are in reality money squabbles. But so few people ever realize it. Their ears are too full of bugles and drums and fine words from stay-at-home orators.
Rhett Butler, in Margaret Mitchell's Gone With the Wind
Why, of course people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple mater to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Herman Goering, at the Nuremburg Trials -
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Re: a collection of quotes all mixed together...
Fri, March 23, 2007 - 1:48 PM
"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one”
“The things most people want to know about are usually none of their business.”
“Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.”
"He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career."
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it."
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
"Peace is not only better than war, but infinitely more arduous."
"During the last considerable epidemic at the turn of the century, I was a member of the Health Committee of London Borough Council, and I learned how the credit of vaccination is kept up statistically by diagnosing all the revaccinated cases (of smallpox) as pustular eczema, varioloid or what not---except smallpox."
All of the above are from George Bernard Shaw.
"There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does more harm than good."---Dr. J. Anthony Morris, former Chief Vaccine Control Officer and research virologist, US FDA
Immunizations not only did not prevent any infectious diseases, they caused more suffering and more deaths than has any other human activity in the entire history of medical intervention. It will be decades before the mopping-up after the disasters caused by childhood vaccination will be completed."--- Dr. Viera Scheibner, PhD
Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts. William S. Burroughs
"We do know that to have serious allergies, a person has to have high levels of IgE antibodies, and to have a Th2 skewed immune system. And we also know that aluminum-adjuranted injected vaccines don't activate the first defenses (Th1) that infections normally trigger in the cellular immune system. Instead they activate the last defenses of the humoral system, antibodies, which are preferentially Th2. That is the job that aluminum is designed to do. But no one has looked to see if the increasing numbers of vaccines, by skewing the baby's immune system to exactly the state it needs to be to provoke serious allergy, are implicated."
from page 445 in Just a Little Prick by Hilary Butler
"It's a double-edged sword when you stimulate the immune system." Bali Pulendran
Hysteria accompanies an unwillingness to look at what is really going on; it promotes an unwillingness to look. We feel we are afraid to look, when actually it is not-looking that makes us afraid. The minute we look, we cease being afraid. Michael Crichton, Travels
The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal. Mark Twain
"Custom will reconcile people to any atrocity."
George Bernard Shaw
Herd immunity means that if you do what the herd does you are immune from having to think for yourself.
Darin and Katie, aka Scattershoot, MDC
"To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you." -- Lewis B. Smedes
"When we start to lessen some organism, another organism steps into its biological niche and it might just be worse than the first one." - lioralourie
"You're not a crackpot if you believe that nasty chemicals pumped into the atmosphere are causing climate change. But you ARE a crackpot if you believe that regularly injecting nasty chemicals into babies' bodies can cause brain screw-ups." a version of... Squidgilum on Fark.com. -
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Mon, May 7, 2007 - 9:38 AMTrust your hunches. They're usually based on facts filed away just below the conscious level. Dr Joyce Brothers
Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.-Kahlil Gibran
No my friend, darkness is not everywhere,
for here and there I find faces illuminated from within;
paper lanterns among the dark trees.
Carole Borges
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food choices
Tue, May 22, 2007 - 12:42 PMYou have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
The time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men.
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Freedom
Tue, May 22, 2007 - 12:50 PMAs Utah Phillips said,
"The state can't give you free speech, and the state can't take it away. You're born with it, like your eyes, like your ears.
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Sun, July 29, 2007 - 12:53 PMMy pleasure! Thank you for the thank yous! :)
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Sat, July 28, 2007 - 2:49 AM"Sadness is but a wall between two gardens."
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Re: a collection of quotes all mixed together...
Thu, August 16, 2007 - 6:42 AMA government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.
Thomas Jefferson
"The problem is that once science has reduced a complex phenomenon to a couple of variables, however important they may be, the natural tendency is to overlook everything else, to assume that what you can measure is all there is, or at least all that really matters. When we mistake what we can know for all there is to know, a healthy appreciation of one's ignorance in the face of a mystery like soil fertility gives way to the hubris that we can treat nature as a machine. Once that leap has been made, one input follows another, so that when the synthetic nitrogen fed to plants makes them more attractive to insects and vulnerable to disease, was we have discovered, the farmer turns to chemical pesticides to fix his broken machine."
Michael Pollan, contrasting the NPK mentality with Sir Albert Howard/Wendell Berry's understanding of organics/ biodiversity in The Omnivore's Dilemma
Conventional people are roused to fury by departure from convention, largely because they regard such departure as a criticism of themselves. -- Bertrand Russell
"Flint must be an extremely wealthy town: I see that each of you bought two or three seats."
- Victor Borge, playing to a half-filled house in Flint, Michigan.
"God tells me how the music should sound, but you stand in the way."
- Arturo Toscanini to a trumpet player
"Happiness is not something you experience, it's something you remember."
- Oscar Levant
The inventor of the bagpipes was inspired when he saw a man carrying an indignant asthmatic pig under his arm. Unfortunately, the manmade sound never equaled the purity of the sound achieved by the pig.
-Alfred Hitchcock
"Who in their right mind would ever need more than 640k of ram!?" -- Bill Gates, 1981 -
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Fri, August 17, 2007 - 10:16 AMIf the sixteen million acres now being used to grow corn to feed cows in the United States became well-managed pasture, that would remove fourteen billion pounds of carbon from the atmosphere each year, the equivalent of taking four million cars off the road. We seldom focus on farming's role in global warming, but as much as a third of all the greenhouse gases that human activity has added to the atmosphere can be attributed to the saw and the plow.
In a way, the most morally troubling thing about killing chickens is that after a while it is no longer morally troubling.
Why is the hunter who shoots a deer for venison subject to more criticism than the person who buys a ham at the supermarket? Overall it is probably the intensively reared pig who has suffered more. (Peter Singer, in Animal Liberation, as quoted in O.D.)
-All from The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan
"Parents should recognize that having their babies cry unnecessarily harms the baby permanently. It changes the nervous system so they're sensitive to future trauma."
"I think there's a real resistance in this culture to caring for children.
Punishment and abandonment has never been a good way to get warm, caring, independent people."
- Dr. Michael Commons, Department of Psychiatry, Harvard
Amare et sapere vix deo conceditur- Even a god cannot love and be wise at the same time.
If you do not read the papers you are uninformed. If you do read the papers you are misinformed. -Mark Twain
"I am not at all concerned with appearing to be consistent.
In my pursuit after Truth I have discarded many ideas and learnt many new things." Gandhi
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Origin of Opinions. and also Infant Formula thoughts.
Tue, October 9, 2007 - 11:03 AMIt is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mothers who want the free formula can request it from the formula companies, but hospitals should market health
and nothing else. Amelia Psmythe, Executive Director of the Nursing Mothers Counsel of Oregon
Formula feeding is the longest lasting uncontrolled experiment lacking informed consent in the history of medicine.
Frank Oski, MD, retired editor, Journal of Pediatrics
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The Politics of Medicine. and more parenting thoughts.
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 8:41 AMMany people would sooner die than think. In fact, they do. Bertrand Russell
Only about 15% of medical interventions are supported by solid scientific evidence.... This is partly because only 1%
of the studies in medical journals are scientifically sound and partly because many treatments have not been assessed
at all. Richard Smith, editor of the British Medical Journal
To be a dissenter was to be unfunded because the peer-review system rewards conformity and excludes criticism. George Mann
Unfortunately, the role of obstetrics has never been to help women give birth. There is a big
difference between the medical discipline we call "obstetrics" and something completely different, the
art of midwifery. If we want to find safe alternatives to obstetrics, we must rediscover midwifery. To
rediscover midwifery is the same as giving back childbirth to women. And imagine the future if surgical
teams were at the service of the midwives and the women instead of controlling them. Michel Odent, MD
Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law. (Catechism, 2297)
Children need models more than they need critics. Joseph Joubert
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Fri, January 4, 2008 - 9:49 AMJust finished God is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens.
some quotes:
For some reason, little girls can be Jewish without genital alteration: is it useless to look for consistency in the covenants that people believe they have made with god.
Religion has run out of justifications. Thanks to the telescope and the microscope, it no longer offers an explanation of anything important. Where once it used to be able, by its total command of a worldview, to prevent the emergence of rivals, it can now only impede and retard- or try to turn back- the measurable advances that we have made. Sometimes, true, it will artfully concede them. But this is to offer itself the choice between irrelevance and obstruction, impotence or outright reaction, and, given this choice, it is programmed to select the worse of the two. Meanwhile, confronted with undreamed-of vistas inside our own evolving cortex, in the farthest reaches of the known universe, and in the proteins and acids which constitute our nature, religion offers either annihilation in the name of god, or else the false promise that if we take a knife to our foreskins, or pray in the right direction, or ingest pieces of wafer, we shall be "saved." It is as if someone, offered a delicious and fragrant out-of-season fruit, matured in a painstakingly and lovingly designed hothouse, should throw away the flesh and the pulp and gnaw moodily on the pit.
As grim as Hitchens is, somehow reading him alongside George Carlin's Napalm and Silly Putty feels like they're almost confirming each other back and forth. Go figure.
from Carlin:
Can't we silence these Christian athletes who thank Jesus whenever they win and never mention his name when they lose? You never hear them say, "Jesus made me drop the ball," or "The good Lord tripped me up behind the line of scrimmage." According to Christian athletes, Jesus is undefeated.
Interviewer: Do you have any words of advice?
Jesus: You mean like how to remove chewing gum from a suede garment? Something like that?
Interviewer: No, I mean spiritual advice.
Jesus: Well, I don't know how spiritual it is, but I'd say one thing is don't give your money to the church. They should be giving their money to you.
Interviewer: Well, thank you Jesus, and good night.
while we're on Carlin...
I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal, fucking is legal. So, why isn't it legal to sell fucking? Why should it be illegal to sell something that's legal to give away? I can't follow the logic. Of all the things you can do to a person, giving them an orgasm is hardly the worst. In the army they give you a medal for killing people; in civilian life you go the jail for giving them orgasms. Am I missing something?
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pirates, children, tyrants
Tue, January 15, 2008 - 9:34 AMLeafing through Forbes or Fortune [magazine]s is like reading the operating manual of a strangely sanctimonious pirate ship.
Adam Gopnik, in The New Yorker.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Goethe
It is also in the interest of a tyrant to keep his
people poor, so that they may not be able to afford
the cost of protecting themselves by arms and
be so occupied with their daily tasks that they
have no time for rebellion.
------Aristotle
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. ---Albert Einstein
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what is the opposite of School?
Fri, February 8, 2008 - 11:51 AMI am beginning to suspect all elaborate and special systems of education.
They seem to me to be built upon the supposition that every child is a kind of idiot who must be taught to think. Whereas, if the child is left to himself, he will think more and better, if less showily. Let him go and come freely, let him touch real things and combine his impressions for himself, instead of sitting indoors at a little round table, while a sweet-voiced teacher suggests that he build a stone wall with his wooden blocks, or make a rainbow out of strips of coloured paper, or plant straw trees in bead flower-pots. Such teaching fills the mind with artificial associations that must be got rid of, before the child can develop independent ideas out of actual experience. Anne Sullivan
Carl Sagan wrote:
Britain has produced a range of remarkably gifted multidisciplinary scientists and scholars who are sometimes described as polymaths. The group included, in recent times, Bertrand Russell, A.N. Whitehead, J.B.S. Haldane, J.D. Bernal, and Jacob Bronowski.
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Discipline and Authority... and doin stuff (from The Onion)
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 7:57 PMSometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. Mark Twain
An adult's use of power to push or punish ignores the central emotional component of a boy's attitudes and actions. It fails to make a connection begging to be made. Instead of teaching responsible, moral behavior, when we use harsh discipline, we pass up that "teachable moment" -the window of opportunity for helping boys reflect on their actions and learn a better way. It is clear that a boy's experience of discipline is influential in shaping his conscience, for better or for worse.
When adults use these more coercive, power-oriented approaches, even among young boys, we see a greater likelihood that the discipline will backfire: the boy will respond with an aggressive counterattack to retaliate. A parent may feel the incident is over when the boy stops the offending behavior. But if the boy feels unfairly assaulted or shamed, the conflict remains alive for him until he resolves the feelings. That may take hours, days, or much longer. The intensity of the harsh discipline will escalate over time. It becomes like an arms race in which the adversaries each work to develop stronger weapons.
The child will resist a parent's rules and values and simply learn the harshness, which defeats a main goal of discipline- to guide a child toward more responsible behavior.
Instead of fostering the development of internal controls, harsh discipline reinforces the idea that discipline comes from external forces- from parents, principals, the cops, or the courts. Instead of leading a boy toward better decision making, it prevents him from internalizing the values- and learning the lessons of empathy, respect, and reason- that lead to responsible, moral behavior and emotional accountability. Those lost links weaken the chain of conscience as a boy moves through life.
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Harsh disciplinary methods, because of their high intensity, leave their traces in episodic memory. So although a child may remember being punished for something he said or did, what he most remembers is where he was, how afraid he felt, and what his parent's face looked like contorted with anger or disgust. He is much less likely to internalize the intended lesson, especially when it is a general rule such as "It is important to be nice to other people and not hit them."
p. 62-64 of Raising Cain: Protecting the Emotional Life of Boys, by Dan Kindlon and Michael Thompson.
We probably shouldn't waste the time [studying the reports enough to summarize them] because the reports really all say the same thing: "Kid has trouble learning to read in first grade; starts to hate school; his self-esteem goes to hell; and when he's a teenager, he's pissed off or taking drugs." This is what we see.
p. 35, Raising Cain
I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it. George Carlin
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Local Girlfriend Always Wants To Do Stuff
"Alicia is exhibiting all the classic signs of what we call 'active behavior'—an impulse to engage in unnecessary and often prolonged outdoor movement that is most commonly found in females," Greer said. "Though we cannot be certain, these habits seem to stem from an innate desire to not be doing nothing." -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:41 PMThe AIDS virus isn't fire and gay men aren't twigs;
it doesn't matter how vigorously you rub us against each other,
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Guilt
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 6:54 AMGuilt is the most destructive of all emotions.
It mourns what has been
while playing no part in what may be,
now or in the future.
Penelope Leach
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:11 AM"The homosexual problem.... is the problem of condemning *variety* in human existence"
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in memory of George Carlin
Fri, July 11, 2008 - 11:36 AM-I hope reincarnation is a fact so I can come back and fuck teenagers again.
-As you swim the river of life, do the breast stroke. It helps to clear the turds from your path.
-Here would be a good epitaph for some guy: "I want everyone to know it was great being alive, and I really enjoyed myself. I especially enjoyed fucking and going to the movies."
-The best thing about living at the seashore is that you only have assholes on three sides of you. And if they come at you from the water, you can usually hear them splash.
-All the pope ever does is go around to places where people make six dollars a year and tell them to have more children. Isn't that bright? And responsible! And compassionate. If the pope wants to travel around, flaunting his wealth and encouraging poor people to have children, let him do it privately. The pope is not news.
-Religion has actually convinced people- many of them adults- that there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you do, every minute of the day. And who has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.
And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to remain and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time. But he loves you!
He loves you, and he needs money! He always needs money. He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but somehow... he just can't handle money.
-You know what they ought to do with churches? Tax them. If holy people are so interested in politics, government, and public policy, let them pay the price of admission like everybody else.
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Flue Vaccines don't work
Tue, July 15, 2008 - 4:38 PMAnyone could have figured this out on their own, looking at the most basic of information on the subject,
but here's a quote (cleverly convoluted) that says as much:
"A retrospective cohort study was conducted among workers at a Colorado hospital to provide preliminary data on the effectiveness of trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) against influenza-like illness (ILI). This report summarizes the results of that study, which indicated that TIV had no or low effectiveness against ILI."
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 6:30 AM"If we continue to send our children to Caesar for their education, we need to stop being
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Wed, August 6, 2008 - 8:51 AM"Social reformers are never, ever liked. They are always unpopular because they are always confronting a culture that doesn't want to know more about injustice for which they bear some responsibility."
Gregg Cunningham, Esq. Executive Director for The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform -
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Circumcision. (why are American girls protected, but not boys?)
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Smallpox
Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:32 AMThere is no question but that perfect sanitation has almost obliterated this disease [smallpox], and sooner or later will dispose of it entirely. Of course, when that time comes, in all probability the credit will be given to vaccination.
John Tilden, MD 1851-1940
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humans mutilating each other in the name of God?
Thu, August 28, 2008 - 11:48 AMLike Judaism, Islam forbids disfiguring the body:
"A body - be it alive or dead - should be respected. It cannot be disfigured at any stage," the Jamiatul Ulama, a council of Muslim theologians in Durban, said on Monday ... the Ulama's Ahmed Kathrada said: "We respect the human body in any form... our primary concern is that we cannot reduce it to disfigurement whether living or dead...".
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Fri, September 26, 2008 - 7:33 AMGreat cities rest upon our broad and fertile prairies.
Burn down your cities and leave our farms, and your cities will spring up again as if by magic;
but destroy our farms, and the grass will grow in the streets of every city in the country.
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Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the rest of us?
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 3:29 PM
"I have never been an astronaut, but I think I know the challenges of space."
John McCain
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Fri, October 17, 2008 - 8:30 PM"Where there is mystery, it is generally suspected there must also be evil." Lord Byron
"We were taught not to back down. Whatever our positions lost in logic might be recovered with invective."
Pat Buchanan, on the influence of arguments with his father at the dinner table
"This gender thing is history. You're looking at a guy who sat down with Margaret Thatcher across the table and talked about serious issues."
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more on the art of debate
Tue, October 21, 2008 - 1:10 PMI had also read somewhere that if a man didn't truly believe or understand what he was espousing,
somehow he could do a more convincing job, which gave me a considerable advantage over the teachers.
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Today, 2:18 PMthat while I have ardently copied and pasted many of the brilliant quotes you've posted into my own prodigious list, I can't help but notice that you've quoted our ex-commander-in-thief not once, but twice.
Which to my mind, calls for a little balance.
Therefore, without further ado, I offer the following:
"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur'."
--George W. Bush, discussing the decline of the French economy with British Prime Minister Tony Blair
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddamned piece of paper!" G.W. Bush
And for good measure, one from Big Daddy:
"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." President George H.W. Bush, quoted by Sarah McClendon (White House Reporter) in her June 1992 Newsletter.
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